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February 21, 2002
Derek Melton, also know as dmelton in the forums, took the day off and came to visit me in the shop. We spent the morning working on a small billet to be used for a couple of folder blades. One of our main goals was to see how well the $45 forge press was going to weld a billet. It welded great! Here are the pictures from our day.
Click on any of the Images for a larger view. In conclusion... Derek and I had a great time, and the $45 forge press worked out great. The
welds were perfect from one end to the other. I dont believe the press will
work for drawing a billet out, but it works great for welding. However, Ive not
tried it on a large billet. The press was kind of thrown together to see if it
was going to work. Now that I know it will, I hope to come up with some ideas
that may make it work better. Any comments, ideas, and questions are
welcome.
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Here I am getting ready to forge. You cant be too safe! Also
a normal picture of me and Derek.
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This is the $45 forge press. I made it using an eight-ton
hydraulic jack, three railroad rail plates, some all-thread rod, and a few nuts.
If Im trying to weld up a billet thats not as thick as the nuts under the top
plate, I have to use the round stainless plate seen in the photo to make up the
distance. On a larger billet, I would not use it.
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We used an old 64 inch metal cutting band-saw blade and metal
strapping that I found at a construction site down the road as the material in
our damascus. We started off with two 4 1/2 inch billets consisting
of eleven layers each. We alternated them in the forge and press until we got
both of them welded up. As the billet was getting up to heat in the forge, I used
a propane torch to heat up the top rail plate. This keeps the plate from sucking
all of the heat out of the billet as soon as it comes into contact with it. I know
the plate is hot enough when I can drop a drop of water on top of it and steam
comes up.
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In these photos Im bringing the billet out of the forge,
brushing it off, fluxing it, and putting it back into the forge. Pretty much
your standard welding procedures. (Note that Ive not documented all of the
heating, pressing, cleaning, and fluxing what went on.)
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Now Im getting ready to put the billet under the press. My
process here is to heat up the end of a bar of steel, quickly pull the billet
out and place it on the heated bar, put the bar into the press, and get busy
pumping.
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Here are three pictures with the billet under the press. You
have to work quickly after you place the billet in the press because it looses
its heat quickly. I set the press open just enough to get the billet in prior to
pulling the billet out of the fire. Once the billet is in the press, Im able to
get around five or six cranks on it before I can no longer pump the jack. By
this time the billet has cooled and needs to go back into the forge.![]()
Then I heat, clean, flux, and stick the billet back into the
fire to bring it back up to welding heat. We were able to get the first weld
made after taking it to the press twice. Once we got both of our billets welded,
we let them cool, cleaned one side of each, wired them together, and went
through the complete welding process again to end up with a 4 1/2 inch twenty two layer billet.
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Here is Derek bringing the billet back up to heat and checking
the welds on the anvil. All looked good. Now to the Little Giant to draw it
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This is the finished product. We ended up with a 22 layer bar
that measured 8 1/2 inches by 5/8 inch by 3/16 inch. Its a small billet, but like
I said earlier, we wanted some damascus for a couple of folder blades, and we
wanted to test out how well the press was going to work.
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